I just got in an argument with a co-worker who claimed that the best stat to rate an offense is runs scored.
I said OPS(i have read money ball, he is a white sox fan).
But it lead me to thinking. If you had to choose 1 traditional stat to rate an offense, would it be runs scored?
Pick your one stat. I know OPS isn't traditional but I will count it because it doesn't have any sabermetric voodoo on it.
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Scoring runs is of course the only way to win games. People have looked at the ability of teams to score runs and their run differential (scored versus scored against). Teams with high positive differentials traditionally are the best, but sometimes they aren't because they score in chunks rather than consistently. If I were to choose a single stat I may also choose runs scored, but would have to look at runs scored in comparison to OPS. What is the ratio of runs scored to OPS? If that ratio is too high, then I would say the team is perhaps too lucky at getting guys to score and may be due for an offensive shift. Good question.
ReplyDeleteRuns scored would be a retarded persons choice because you are going to advance as a runner based on those hitting behind you (unless you hit a home run, steal home, or something I didn't think of).
ReplyDeleteI took it as rating an entire team's offense. I would say runs scored are important in that case. For an individual player runs scored doesn't make any sense.
ReplyDeleteyeah rob, talking about team offense, not individual. He was saying the AL had waaaaaaaaaaay better offenses. I point out that they get an extra hitter and some of the higher market teams. If you look at baseball prospectus team batting,
ReplyDeletehttp://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=78623
its not as one sided as the runs scored for the top ten like here. In fact, the NL has a stronger average for the top 10.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable_team_stats.jsp?statType=1&tcid=mm_mlb_stats&timeFrame=1&Submit=Submit&groupByTeam=true&baseballScope=mlb&timeSubFrame=2010&sortByStat=R
But I can't show him the prospectus list because he is a stupid sox fan.
I wrote something yesterday, it was all like.
ReplyDeleteAL pays $10 million more a year or something, which is 10% of the NL total payroll.
So, if AL has more good players, then fine, maybe they do. Who gives a fuck.
If an AL fan makes this argument, then they should realize that they are lumping themselves with the BoSox and the Yanks, and they should just talk about how much they want to combine their own teams stats with those teams stats and then lump your team with the Cubs and the Pirates and the Mets.
Ooh, big fucking deal. The league you play in pays more money and has more good players (possibly). Big fucking deal.
If you want to wax philosophical about whether the pitcher should be allowed to play 1/2 of a position and be allowed to substitute a designated hitter for the other 1/2, then call me.
(That is Capital_Prototype's hasty argument to ALers)
ReplyDeleteOr OPS.
ReplyDeleteI would love to wax philosophical about the DH. over beer. Pat should be there too because he and I were chatting about it the oder day.
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